rmdsouza
06-23 10:49 AM
This myth has never been successfully countered in the media or any other PR or lobbying channel by the legal immigration crowd.
The standard line amounts to this:
We are highly skilled we are legal and we are stuck and dont deserve this.
This is not good PR. Nobody cares about this.. it will get us nowhere..
We need to have a standard message apart from all other humint crap..
1) legals cannot undercut US jobseekers because of strict labor laws. Employers are paying a premium in wages as well as legal fees to retain their legal alien workforce. IT would be foolhardy of them to go through the hassle if local talent was easily available.
2) legals are in most cases paying taxes for which they may never realize the benifits like social security.
We need to let it be known in a firm polite manner that
1) we are giving more than we are getting and are not free loaders
2) we are not harming or displacing anyone.
I dont think this can be perceived as tryng to distance ourselves from undocumented workers. There are rare moments when the media does focus on legal immigrants as a group lets make the most of it.
I would say that Social Sec Taxes and Medicare are unfair taxes. Some H-1Bs (read people from India and China) are not treated the same way as citizens, Green Card holders, and othe H-1Bs (read from Western Europe). Since they wont give us GC's.., we have to eventually go home. This implies, no Medicare or Social Sec benefits. Going by a conservative estimate.. there are about 500,000 GC applications in the blackhole for an average of 3 yrs. Each pays on an average $4,200 SC and Medicare taxes. So the state owes us $6.3 Billion... We sincerely request that we be treated fairly and our money be given back to us.. OR.. easy for them, give us GC
The standard line amounts to this:
We are highly skilled we are legal and we are stuck and dont deserve this.
This is not good PR. Nobody cares about this.. it will get us nowhere..
We need to have a standard message apart from all other humint crap..
1) legals cannot undercut US jobseekers because of strict labor laws. Employers are paying a premium in wages as well as legal fees to retain their legal alien workforce. IT would be foolhardy of them to go through the hassle if local talent was easily available.
2) legals are in most cases paying taxes for which they may never realize the benifits like social security.
We need to let it be known in a firm polite manner that
1) we are giving more than we are getting and are not free loaders
2) we are not harming or displacing anyone.
I dont think this can be perceived as tryng to distance ourselves from undocumented workers. There are rare moments when the media does focus on legal immigrants as a group lets make the most of it.
I would say that Social Sec Taxes and Medicare are unfair taxes. Some H-1Bs (read people from India and China) are not treated the same way as citizens, Green Card holders, and othe H-1Bs (read from Western Europe). Since they wont give us GC's.., we have to eventually go home. This implies, no Medicare or Social Sec benefits. Going by a conservative estimate.. there are about 500,000 GC applications in the blackhole for an average of 3 yrs. Each pays on an average $4,200 SC and Medicare taxes. So the state owes us $6.3 Billion... We sincerely request that we be treated fairly and our money be given back to us.. OR.. easy for them, give us GC
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tikka
06-06 05:50 PM
All guys who is able to file or have filed for I-485. Please contribute to this good cause. Please help our other friends..
I know some of our friends who already have green card contributed..
Guys please give gift to IV now.. Thanks.
needed to reach the target for today!
I know some of our friends who already have green card contributed..
Guys please give gift to IV now.. Thanks.
needed to reach the target for today!
intheyan
08-12 02:28 PM
That helps a lot.
Here is some more information I got from murthy's forum.
http://murthyforum.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1024039761&f=1474093861&m=1201040261
ADIT (I-551) stamping
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Applicant appears at local USCIS for ADIT processing. Applicant will not be scheduled for an ADIT appointment, ADIT processing is done by "walk-in" basis ONLY.
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Once the applicant adjusts his/her status by completing ADIT processing, s/he is given the I-551 permanent resident stamp in his/her passport.
Courtesy of --- Jackson & Hertogs
Here is some more information I got from murthy's forum.
http://murthyforum.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1024039761&f=1474093861&m=1201040261
ADIT (I-551) stamping
�
Applicant appears at local USCIS for ADIT processing. Applicant will not be scheduled for an ADIT appointment, ADIT processing is done by "walk-in" basis ONLY.
�
Once the applicant adjusts his/her status by completing ADIT processing, s/he is given the I-551 permanent resident stamp in his/her passport.
Courtesy of --- Jackson & Hertogs
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gc_on_demand
05-01 12:10 PM
gc_on_demand ,
I am not anti at all. I am trying to understand the law.
How does a (I485) spouse doesnt have EAD and AP on hand (even if not using it and in H4/L2 etc)?
Wont they have problem when the dates become current and GC is issued to primary.
Lets say I have PD of Aug 2007 and If govt makes me to file under EB and my wife under FB. When date becomes current in EB ( which has higer probability ) I will be able to file but my wife will not.
Now questions will be what will be her status ? If I switch to EAD ? second if govt give them a legal status but they have to wait for 3-4 years to date become current and file for 485.
I am not anti at all. I am trying to understand the law.
How does a (I485) spouse doesnt have EAD and AP on hand (even if not using it and in H4/L2 etc)?
Wont they have problem when the dates become current and GC is issued to primary.
Lets say I have PD of Aug 2007 and If govt makes me to file under EB and my wife under FB. When date becomes current in EB ( which has higer probability ) I will be able to file but my wife will not.
Now questions will be what will be her status ? If I switch to EAD ? second if govt give them a legal status but they have to wait for 3-4 years to date become current and file for 485.
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purplehazea
06-26 03:23 PM
1) This forum is for skilled legal immigrants
2) Any talk about illegal 'rights' and 'plight' is irrelevant to our discussion
3) Getting defensive about illegals or being offensive to any ethnic community is a sharp deviation from our proposed objectives at IV
4) If we do not have anything constructive to contribute while CIR dies, we should rather have constructive decisions about legal immigration bills or topics
5) Lets stay united and fight it out even though the chips may be down right now.
2) Any talk about illegal 'rights' and 'plight' is irrelevant to our discussion
3) Getting defensive about illegals or being offensive to any ethnic community is a sharp deviation from our proposed objectives at IV
4) If we do not have anything constructive to contribute while CIR dies, we should rather have constructive decisions about legal immigration bills or topics
5) Lets stay united and fight it out even though the chips may be down right now.
bayarea07
09-16 06:03 PM
Nothing really matters as of now, what does matter is this
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21393
So Please Call
This is for the non-believers like Mr.Lord
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21393
So Please Call
This is for the non-believers like Mr.Lord
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caforum2
06-18 12:19 PM
Mailed to NSC on: 1st June
Mailed From State: IL
Received at NSC on: June 2nd
receipt date: June 4th
140 approved from : NSC
Receipt Date : June 16th
Cashed on June 16th
Receipt recedived on June 18th
Mailed From State: IL
Received at NSC on: June 2nd
receipt date: June 4th
140 approved from : NSC
Receipt Date : June 16th
Cashed on June 16th
Receipt recedived on June 18th
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tamil12
07-19 05:33 PM
how to use the spillover is purely an USCIS decision. Only to use the spillover to avoid wastage is a law, which is already in place. Infact USCIS was not doing this top down approach on spill over few years ago, this is a new practice they are following since last Fiscal Year, so I strongly believe if Congressmen/women puts pressure/more request it can be changed to a fair application of visa spillover to benefit all that are in the queue for a long wait.
Well Said..
The Spill over changed from the Year 2007 ...It will be Fair to allocate the spill over Visa to oldest PD for the Retrogessed country.
Well Said..
The Spill over changed from the Year 2007 ...It will be Fair to allocate the spill over Visa to oldest PD for the Retrogessed country.
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qasleuth
02-12 01:27 PM
In that case I have to ask you this - what makes you think I am "imposing" (whatever THAT means) high standards on myself? Were you trying to shoot down my arguments by false accusations? I am maintaining the same "standard" as the next guy.
If you read my previous post with attention, you'll see that I have said I did not convey my intentions clearly. So again, if you're simply trying to shoot down what ever I am saying, well, I really can't stop you. You can keep going back to the same topic over and over again, but it will not prove your accusations!
"self-imposed" as in 'chosen people' - as to subscribe to a higher standard to fulfill some expectation. It is not an accusation, it is called underlying presumptions in your posts.
" I did not convey my intentions clearly" - then your comm skills are not much as you have presumptively touted them to be when you shot down the other guy. I am just pointing out, before pontificating, try self-analysis.
If you read my previous post with attention, you'll see that I have said I did not convey my intentions clearly. So again, if you're simply trying to shoot down what ever I am saying, well, I really can't stop you. You can keep going back to the same topic over and over again, but it will not prove your accusations!
"self-imposed" as in 'chosen people' - as to subscribe to a higher standard to fulfill some expectation. It is not an accusation, it is called underlying presumptions in your posts.
" I did not convey my intentions clearly" - then your comm skills are not much as you have presumptively touted them to be when you shot down the other guy. I am just pointing out, before pontificating, try self-analysis.
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Lisap
09-11 04:11 PM
Hi Lisap,
I got an email last night saying EAD card ordered on Sep8 which is a saturday.. This morning I got two emails again saying that same card was ordered on Sep 10. However this is the spouse's ead and I see the lud as 9/10 on 5 of our 485/ead/ap apps. However spouse AP (whose ead was ordered) still has 9/5. I don't understand y they approve one and take time for the other. I think their system has some issues...
Did ur case status say 'ordered' before you got the ead in mail?
Thanks.
No mine did not say that for myself or my husband. It just said approval notice sent. It still says the same thing it has never changed or been updated. It could be there system- who knows! I hope you get yours soon! Keep me updated.
I got an email last night saying EAD card ordered on Sep8 which is a saturday.. This morning I got two emails again saying that same card was ordered on Sep 10. However this is the spouse's ead and I see the lud as 9/10 on 5 of our 485/ead/ap apps. However spouse AP (whose ead was ordered) still has 9/5. I don't understand y they approve one and take time for the other. I think their system has some issues...
Did ur case status say 'ordered' before you got the ead in mail?
Thanks.
No mine did not say that for myself or my husband. It just said approval notice sent. It still says the same thing it has never changed or been updated. It could be there system- who knows! I hope you get yours soon! Keep me updated.
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Dhundhun
07-12 01:40 AM
I was plannig to go to Canada to take care of the landing formalities, but happened to visit this website, http://www.notcanada.com.
The details provided in the site is really scary. Though we keep Canadian PR as back up, after seeing this, I am wondering do I really need to go for landing.
Can someone validate the details provided in notcanada.com
Canada has been lacking of much opportunity and your friends may not open hearted to welcome you there and create opportunity. Perhaps they themselves feel at risk - or really lack of opportunity. I have been Canada for execution of couple of projects in early nineties several times.
It seems that it is no longer true. My son has couple of friends there and now his friends are proactively discussing about opportunities.
So I feel that for job scenarios will be very much different for 15 years experienced persons, 10 years experienced persons, 5 years experienced persons and recently graduated persons.
It may be better for young graduates. If you have 15+ years experience better to explore more.
This is based on personal experiences.
The details provided in the site is really scary. Though we keep Canadian PR as back up, after seeing this, I am wondering do I really need to go for landing.
Can someone validate the details provided in notcanada.com
Canada has been lacking of much opportunity and your friends may not open hearted to welcome you there and create opportunity. Perhaps they themselves feel at risk - or really lack of opportunity. I have been Canada for execution of couple of projects in early nineties several times.
It seems that it is no longer true. My son has couple of friends there and now his friends are proactively discussing about opportunities.
So I feel that for job scenarios will be very much different for 15 years experienced persons, 10 years experienced persons, 5 years experienced persons and recently graduated persons.
It may be better for young graduates. If you have 15+ years experience better to explore more.
This is based on personal experiences.
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psaxena
09-10 07:41 PM
Deepak,
Simple thing, I don't comment all the bull that goes on , on the open forum, discussing Vonage to anything, who cares. Put up the opinions no problem. But there has to be a limit on how and what are you putting up.
Despite IV doing so much for the community, the post from gvenkat, jyoti and including yours and lot others (guys you know whom I am talking about) actually demotivate the group and this way you contribute to IV but all NEGATI VE When I see this type shit I just cannot stop myself and I think would be a shame on myself if I do so.
Also , one time donation are not helping. IV needs more donations, more volunteers. Come on join in, everything is flexible here for volunteers, so please contribute and donate.IV core has got it to this point with least support and proved that yes it can be done now what else do you what IV to prove. After this still you are looking for something for them to prove. then its nothing to prove all BS excuses for not being the part of it.
If that is the case , then who cares about ones opinion???
I don't usually comment on such posts and I have seen a lot of people take the side I am about to take. I just think you are being unnecessarily rude. It is these people and their opinions that cause IV to exist as a group. Lets say you are going to lock membership only to people paying a membership fee every month. How big a group are you going to get?
If it is going to be significant, then maybe that's the way IV should go and should just shut down public forums where there are members who can talk and members who have "not bought their right to talk"
I bring up the "monthly membership" issue because I did make donations on multiple occasions (you should probably look up your records and verify). And yet, under the new design, I am not a donor, I do not get access to the exclusive threads that only the privileged monthly members do. So, just like the OP, I am a thankless member who thinks the group is thankless. So, I do not know what initiatives IV has taken, but yet, I linger around the forums because it has so many smart people throwing around ideas, working on theories and just being friendly.
Maybe you should just create a little forum of yours in one corner and put walls around so no one can come in and make suggestions about things you won't tell them about. Does it take that much effort to be nice to someone? Just remember that he is free to tell you what to do irrespective of who he is. What you actually do is upto you. Just be nice for a change, it will make you get a whole new perspective on life!
Simple thing, I don't comment all the bull that goes on , on the open forum, discussing Vonage to anything, who cares. Put up the opinions no problem. But there has to be a limit on how and what are you putting up.
Despite IV doing so much for the community, the post from gvenkat, jyoti and including yours and lot others (guys you know whom I am talking about) actually demotivate the group and this way you contribute to IV but all NEGATI VE When I see this type shit I just cannot stop myself and I think would be a shame on myself if I do so.
Also , one time donation are not helping. IV needs more donations, more volunteers. Come on join in, everything is flexible here for volunteers, so please contribute and donate.IV core has got it to this point with least support and proved that yes it can be done now what else do you what IV to prove. After this still you are looking for something for them to prove. then its nothing to prove all BS excuses for not being the part of it.
If that is the case , then who cares about ones opinion???
I don't usually comment on such posts and I have seen a lot of people take the side I am about to take. I just think you are being unnecessarily rude. It is these people and their opinions that cause IV to exist as a group. Lets say you are going to lock membership only to people paying a membership fee every month. How big a group are you going to get?
If it is going to be significant, then maybe that's the way IV should go and should just shut down public forums where there are members who can talk and members who have "not bought their right to talk"
I bring up the "monthly membership" issue because I did make donations on multiple occasions (you should probably look up your records and verify). And yet, under the new design, I am not a donor, I do not get access to the exclusive threads that only the privileged monthly members do. So, just like the OP, I am a thankless member who thinks the group is thankless. So, I do not know what initiatives IV has taken, but yet, I linger around the forums because it has so many smart people throwing around ideas, working on theories and just being friendly.
Maybe you should just create a little forum of yours in one corner and put walls around so no one can come in and make suggestions about things you won't tell them about. Does it take that much effort to be nice to someone? Just remember that he is free to tell you what to do irrespective of who he is. What you actually do is upto you. Just be nice for a change, it will make you get a whole new perspective on life!
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tonyHK12
02-18 02:52 PM
Wondering if IV sent out a newsletter yet. That would actually bring in more people.
Not that I know of. I haven't seen any media on that, have to check with StarSun.
email IDs are only accesible to admins.
thanks sandy_anand
Not that I know of. I haven't seen any media on that, have to check with StarSun.
email IDs are only accesible to admins.
thanks sandy_anand
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pappu
02-01 09:43 AM
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/2301599-post1.html
To conduct such an effort, IV also needs contributions. Our estimated cost is around $50,000 for the event. We need generous contributions from our members, especially from members who are unable to make it to the DC event. To be clear, all one time contributions starting from February 1st will be considered as a contribution to the advocacy event. All the recurring donations will continue to go towards Donor forum access. Our advocacy event costs will be on top of our regular costs and we need to pay for both.
To conduct such an effort, IV also needs contributions. Our estimated cost is around $50,000 for the event. We need generous contributions from our members, especially from members who are unable to make it to the DC event. To be clear, all one time contributions starting from February 1st will be considered as a contribution to the advocacy event. All the recurring donations will continue to go towards Donor forum access. Our advocacy event costs will be on top of our regular costs and we need to pay for both.
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ThinkTwice
07-11 04:43 PM
I have mailed you the information.
Hi Friends, I came to know about this protest and would like to pass on the information about the protest to Indian Student Assocaition [strength over 600 active members] at San Jose state University and possible Santa Clara University. I am sure my fellow students will be proud to contribute to the indian community. So, Kindly let me know more details ASAP becuase its already wednesday. My email is sampathg4@yahoo.com.
- Sampath Gadamsetty
Hi Friends, I came to know about this protest and would like to pass on the information about the protest to Indian Student Assocaition [strength over 600 active members] at San Jose state University and possible Santa Clara University. I am sure my fellow students will be proud to contribute to the indian community. So, Kindly let me know more details ASAP becuase its already wednesday. My email is sampathg4@yahoo.com.
- Sampath Gadamsetty
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ssa
05-23 02:26 PM
I have also called 6 senators till now and send email to 100 reporters from the CSV list from the other thread.
Lets keep up the good work..
Lets keep up the good work..
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gxr
09-04 05:06 PM
PD:July 2006
140: Oct 2006 Pending
i-485 : @ NSC july 3rd waiting for receipt (Checks not cashed)
July 3rd R.William 9:03am NSC
One time contribution: $100
140: Oct 2006 Pending
i-485 : @ NSC july 3rd waiting for receipt (Checks not cashed)
July 3rd R.William 9:03am NSC
One time contribution: $100
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psk79
08-22 10:12 PM
Hi,
I got my EAD today...Even i received my EAD also...Mine is sent to NSC on july 2nd...I received EAD's from Texas Center...I think my application was transferred to Texas...I have approved I-140 from Texas...Are receipt numbers for EAD, 485, AP are in serial? I haven't received receipts yet...I filled G-28...my attorney did not receive my receipts...I don't know what is going on...
AWESOME !!!! CANT WAIT TO GET OUR DAMN RECEIPTS!!!!!!!!!! GLAD TO SEE THE SECOND CASE OF TExas I140 with NSC I485 filing!!!!!!!!!!
I got my EAD today...Even i received my EAD also...Mine is sent to NSC on july 2nd...I received EAD's from Texas Center...I think my application was transferred to Texas...I have approved I-140 from Texas...Are receipt numbers for EAD, 485, AP are in serial? I haven't received receipts yet...I filled G-28...my attorney did not receive my receipts...I don't know what is going on...
AWESOME !!!! CANT WAIT TO GET OUR DAMN RECEIPTS!!!!!!!!!! GLAD TO SEE THE SECOND CASE OF TExas I140 with NSC I485 filing!!!!!!!!!!
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reddymjm
06-09 09:13 AM
got receipt notice dated 6th of june for 140 premium processing and got call from employer on 8th of june evening saying the case has been approved. approved in less than 3 days.
What service center was it from? Was it a concurrent filing of I140 and 485?
What service center was it from? Was it a concurrent filing of I140 and 485?
Leo07
09-11 02:49 PM
Let's NOT be hypocrites. We are just venting out our frustrations of these never ending Visa Bulletin life...
We all know that we respect each other and value much more than these occasional emotional outbursts. Donors or Non Donors, USCIS treats us as same shit.
My take would be, if people want to Donate or find that their Donation could help their cause, they will Donate. We can only request people to Donate and put forth our 'Selling points', which I think Pappu, Ameya and others are doing it already.
Please don't stoop down to the level of hating each other on the basis of 'Donor' Vs 'Non-Donor'.
I honestly, think IV should rename that to 'Paid member' or 'Privileged' or 'Subscriber', IMHO, it's NO DONATION. People Donate because they expect something in return...we all want other to donate so that we can have bigger impact, but this is definitely NOT the way to go about it.
Hope it makes sense.
Cheers!
We all know that we respect each other and value much more than these occasional emotional outbursts. Donors or Non Donors, USCIS treats us as same shit.
My take would be, if people want to Donate or find that their Donation could help their cause, they will Donate. We can only request people to Donate and put forth our 'Selling points', which I think Pappu, Ameya and others are doing it already.
Please don't stoop down to the level of hating each other on the basis of 'Donor' Vs 'Non-Donor'.
I honestly, think IV should rename that to 'Paid member' or 'Privileged' or 'Subscriber', IMHO, it's NO DONATION. People Donate because they expect something in return...we all want other to donate so that we can have bigger impact, but this is definitely NOT the way to go about it.
Hope it makes sense.
Cheers!
anzerraja
07-20 03:31 PM
Thanks !
Zooooom , gsc999, husker, sam, Raju and all others who were driving this initiative what is your take on this ?
Anzeeraja,
Thanks for the initiative. I like the poll idea.
Zooooom , gsc999, husker, sam, Raju and all others who were driving this initiative what is your take on this ?
Anzeeraja,
Thanks for the initiative. I like the poll idea.
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