neoneo
05-05 10:57 AM
Well, following the discussion on BS and MS grads and some of the members cribbing why the MS(from US) students get special treatment, here are my 2 cents.
1) By makng sure that a person is MS they are making sure the population getting greencard is YOUNG !! , it's simple, highly educated "kids" who understand the US culture, since they have studied in US universities and have a whole life ahead of them to do good in Research etc.
Kids gel in fast for e.g if you see a person with BS and MS from the US, his behaviour is attuned to the society as compared to one who just has a MS and a BS from India.
2) On the other hand someone who has a MTech or worked 10 years in India, chances are these guys are already in their late 30's or 40's, so they are not getting the youth in, or a person who will take a lot more time to gel in the soceity as compared to the student.
3) Most importantly, they can't trust people whose degrees are not from the US. Their quality of education, their authenticity. Also, I think the quality of top 100 US univs, which most indians come to anyway, is much better than most of Indian Univs for MS. The kind of infrastructure and teaching they are exposed to is tremendous.
PS: Someone mentioned that PhD's get paid for reseach. Doing researrch is extremely demanding. I would rate it twice as demanding as a regular job! and the amount the students get is peanuts! Like ~$1500 a month for working ~ 60 hrs a week in research is hell !!
Unfortunately, in doing this you may loose some really good candidates, who may not have a US degree, but thats the price you pay "to be safe than sorry"
I think, this should help people who were complaining about this difference better understand that even though they have better profile, it's from a different country and it becomes difficult to verify that.
but, MOST IMPORTANTLY, it's in everyones( BS MS,H1,F1 ..) interest IRRESPECTIVE of the CIS or any other bill going through, the SKIL bill should make it to the floor.
1) By makng sure that a person is MS they are making sure the population getting greencard is YOUNG !! , it's simple, highly educated "kids" who understand the US culture, since they have studied in US universities and have a whole life ahead of them to do good in Research etc.
Kids gel in fast for e.g if you see a person with BS and MS from the US, his behaviour is attuned to the society as compared to one who just has a MS and a BS from India.
2) On the other hand someone who has a MTech or worked 10 years in India, chances are these guys are already in their late 30's or 40's, so they are not getting the youth in, or a person who will take a lot more time to gel in the soceity as compared to the student.
3) Most importantly, they can't trust people whose degrees are not from the US. Their quality of education, their authenticity. Also, I think the quality of top 100 US univs, which most indians come to anyway, is much better than most of Indian Univs for MS. The kind of infrastructure and teaching they are exposed to is tremendous.
PS: Someone mentioned that PhD's get paid for reseach. Doing researrch is extremely demanding. I would rate it twice as demanding as a regular job! and the amount the students get is peanuts! Like ~$1500 a month for working ~ 60 hrs a week in research is hell !!
Unfortunately, in doing this you may loose some really good candidates, who may not have a US degree, but thats the price you pay "to be safe than sorry"
I think, this should help people who were complaining about this difference better understand that even though they have better profile, it's from a different country and it becomes difficult to verify that.
but, MOST IMPORTANTLY, it's in everyones( BS MS,H1,F1 ..) interest IRRESPECTIVE of the CIS or any other bill going through, the SKIL bill should make it to the floor.
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senthil1
06-23 03:04 PM
Predictions of the bill
I think some result will come in the bill sooner or later. if not this year may be next year bill will be passed. Probably most of the immigration provisions will be Amended to get a some releif for everyone. H1 cap may be increased to 115k. No of greencards will not be 650k. may be Double the current number than 650k. There will be strong opposition for big increase of immigration. The reason is lot of americans lost job in IT because of outsourcing and h1s. The impact might be mild as most of them landed in another job as ecomomy slowly improved. If no possiblity of passing the bill it will be killed in 2 or 3 months. On the other hand If delayed for next year the bill will be passed in some form. Bush will try to give relief to illegals before he leaves office.
I think some result will come in the bill sooner or later. if not this year may be next year bill will be passed. Probably most of the immigration provisions will be Amended to get a some releif for everyone. H1 cap may be increased to 115k. No of greencards will not be 650k. may be Double the current number than 650k. There will be strong opposition for big increase of immigration. The reason is lot of americans lost job in IT because of outsourcing and h1s. The impact might be mild as most of them landed in another job as ecomomy slowly improved. If no possiblity of passing the bill it will be killed in 2 or 3 months. On the other hand If delayed for next year the bill will be passed in some form. Bush will try to give relief to illegals before he leaves office.
ssa
07-28 12:04 AM
No one can realistically claim a moral high ground here - neither EB2 nor EB3. and that includes me too! Each one of us here are looking for self interest, period. No amount of calls to empathy/sympathy/solidarity will change that.
For example, I'll get behind the whole "restore the old overflow logic for EB3" campaign in a heartbeat if we can have a consensus that EB3 will share the resulting overflow with EB3 other workers category too. EB3 other workers category is typically in worse shape than EB3-I so all the arguments presented here for EB3 (length of wait and frustration, unfairness of it all etc.) apply equally or more to the EB3 other workers. Any takers for this proposal?
So please see all this for what it is and stop the endless debate. You can not realistically expect EB2s to support any campaign that directly harm their interests. EB3s of course have every right to run whatever campaign they wish but also accept that it *will* split active IV membership (rare as it is) along those lines vertically. That's why the calls to stick to "common minimum program" of visa re-capture. Only those campaigns that don't have conflict of interests will be able to draw whole IV membership behind them. It's human nature - plain and simple.
For example, I'll get behind the whole "restore the old overflow logic for EB3" campaign in a heartbeat if we can have a consensus that EB3 will share the resulting overflow with EB3 other workers category too. EB3 other workers category is typically in worse shape than EB3-I so all the arguments presented here for EB3 (length of wait and frustration, unfairness of it all etc.) apply equally or more to the EB3 other workers. Any takers for this proposal?
So please see all this for what it is and stop the endless debate. You can not realistically expect EB2s to support any campaign that directly harm their interests. EB3s of course have every right to run whatever campaign they wish but also accept that it *will* split active IV membership (rare as it is) along those lines vertically. That's why the calls to stick to "common minimum program" of visa re-capture. Only those campaigns that don't have conflict of interests will be able to draw whole IV membership behind them. It's human nature - plain and simple.
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deepimpact
09-23 04:44 PM
If someone ports from eb3 to eb2 they should get the priority date of the day they were eligible to file an eb2 and not be able to carry the date from eb3.
Porting makes sense in a family based visa where your petitioner can file for an application while he is still a green card holder and then becomes a citizen which upgrades the beneficiary's category as well.
On an employment visa you file for an eb3 when you are eligible for an eb3 job, you file for an eb2 when you are eligible for an eb2 job. Why would you be able to jump ahead in the eb2 line when you were clearly did not have an eb2 job ? Just because you filed an application at some point of time in eb3 and waited a decade to get a better job doesn't mean someone else has to pay for your (pick one - laziness, ineptitude, lack of skill or lack of knowledge).
Most of IV Core is made of eb3 applicants and therefore there has never been any push from the core on this matter. And as someone said .. You ARE eating my lunch..
That's the way the rule is set and it doesn't matter if it makes 100% sense or not. Just like not all EB3 folks are happy with change in spillover, all in EB2 may not be happy with the way Porting rule is set up. But at the end of the day the total no. of visas available is the same, whatever way it is distributed and unless legislative change is made, both EB2 and EB3-I will remain retrogressed anywhere between 5-15 yrs.
Porting makes sense in a family based visa where your petitioner can file for an application while he is still a green card holder and then becomes a citizen which upgrades the beneficiary's category as well.
On an employment visa you file for an eb3 when you are eligible for an eb3 job, you file for an eb2 when you are eligible for an eb2 job. Why would you be able to jump ahead in the eb2 line when you were clearly did not have an eb2 job ? Just because you filed an application at some point of time in eb3 and waited a decade to get a better job doesn't mean someone else has to pay for your (pick one - laziness, ineptitude, lack of skill or lack of knowledge).
Most of IV Core is made of eb3 applicants and therefore there has never been any push from the core on this matter. And as someone said .. You ARE eating my lunch..
That's the way the rule is set and it doesn't matter if it makes 100% sense or not. Just like not all EB3 folks are happy with change in spillover, all in EB2 may not be happy with the way Porting rule is set up. But at the end of the day the total no. of visas available is the same, whatever way it is distributed and unless legislative change is made, both EB2 and EB3-I will remain retrogressed anywhere between 5-15 yrs.
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tonyHK12
02-10 11:20 AM
thanks sureshtreddy, dkshitij for your contributions.
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mashu
08-13 02:35 PM
Hi all,
any advice/suggestion in my case:
EB3
I-140 is approved on Jun 15, 2007, Premium processing, in Texas
I485 package delivered to Nebraska on July 2, 11:35 am and is singed by ... whoever..
I've registered on the https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/index.jsp
site and all times before LUD for my I140 was 6/16/2007 until today
Today LUD for is updated to 8/12/2007.
Checks have not been cashed.
Please anybody is in the same sutiation???
any advice/suggestion in my case:
EB3
I-140 is approved on Jun 15, 2007, Premium processing, in Texas
I485 package delivered to Nebraska on July 2, 11:35 am and is singed by ... whoever..
I've registered on the https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/index.jsp
site and all times before LUD for my I140 was 6/16/2007 until today
Today LUD for is updated to 8/12/2007.
Checks have not been cashed.
Please anybody is in the same sutiation???
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JazzByTheBay
12-17 05:06 PM
...many folks amongst us come to this realization after seeing no signs of the proverbial light at the end of the tunnel, most having spent the better part of their most productive years to complete the immigration process. :)
No, it's not criticism - I'm in the same boat, and the posts where many of us claim to plan to return home/country of origin/somewhere else "IF blah doesn't happen... by blah (insert your time period of choice/tolerance here)" are of high interest to me. It'd be great to be able to compile a list of such posts with original post date, end of tolerance threshold, action taken (if any) after that... and see what we get. :) (Yes, that may be a futile exercise for individuals... but may be of interest to IV as an organization... )
My guess is those who want to move just wake up one fine day, decide they've had enough of it, and follow it up with action (like book tickets, find a job back home, etc... ).
jazz
Restarted the process again in 2006 due to job change.
Two things that help me.
1) Personally meeting lawmakers and making it obvious to them how screwed up their policies are.
2) Being ready to go back. After all, the country where i was born and spent the first 25 yrs of my life cannot be that impossible for me to live in.
No, it's not criticism - I'm in the same boat, and the posts where many of us claim to plan to return home/country of origin/somewhere else "IF blah doesn't happen... by blah (insert your time period of choice/tolerance here)" are of high interest to me. It'd be great to be able to compile a list of such posts with original post date, end of tolerance threshold, action taken (if any) after that... and see what we get. :) (Yes, that may be a futile exercise for individuals... but may be of interest to IV as an organization... )
My guess is those who want to move just wake up one fine day, decide they've had enough of it, and follow it up with action (like book tickets, find a job back home, etc... ).
jazz
Restarted the process again in 2006 due to job change.
Two things that help me.
1) Personally meeting lawmakers and making it obvious to them how screwed up their policies are.
2) Being ready to go back. After all, the country where i was born and spent the first 25 yrs of my life cannot be that impossible for me to live in.
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rameshvaid
11-18 08:04 AM
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pittdude
02-12 07:03 AM
Will send a check for $50 today and tell family and friends.
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helmet
09-03 02:14 AM
received cpo email for EAD today. AP is still pending and there is a soft LUD on 9/1/08.
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marty
04-24 03:10 PM
I have done the landing and came back to US on Automatic Visa Revalidation as my 797 is valid. No problem at all while entering in Canada. The officer just looked at the permnant resident confirmation paper, ask how much funds I am carrying. I told him I have less than a $1000 but I will be transfering funds if needed. I was not asked to show the proof. Next I went to canadian customs and gave them the goods to follow list. The officer processed that and welcomed me to Canada. The whole process took like 15-20 min. While coming back to US the officer did ask me why I was travelling and what I do in US and I told him I came here to become permanant resident and I am on H1B in US. They asked if I applied for LPR in US and I said yes and it is pending. The CBP officer was aggressive, asked me lots of other question but didn't create any issues while issuing the new I-94. So overall, things went fine.
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thurinalas
08-28 02:20 PM
Filed I485/EAD/AP on July 30th @ NSC.
Check cashed :NO
Receipts : NO
can we add two polls within the date subcategories - one which tracks how many people received receipts, and another to check if they are NSC or TSC?
Or are there other polls like this already for July 17 - Aug 17th I 485 Filers?
Check cashed :NO
Receipts : NO
can we add two polls within the date subcategories - one which tracks how many people received receipts, and another to check if they are NSC or TSC?
Or are there other polls like this already for July 17 - Aug 17th I 485 Filers?
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glus
07-02 09:43 AM
Fed-Ex sent today july 2nd.:)
Note: Iam not sure if anyone should have posted on jun 30 to be delivered on july 2nd. But again, i don't know.:mad:
REceived date is important, not the mailed date. So if one sent on jun 30 that's ok.
Note: Iam not sure if anyone should have posted on jun 30 to be delivered on july 2nd. But again, i don't know.:mad:
REceived date is important, not the mailed date. So if one sent on jun 30 that's ok.
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SunnySurya
08-18 01:27 PM
Here is what I propose:
1. Any one with good english language skill : Can you please volunteer to draft a letter stating the issue....
2. Please contact your lawyers to see if they have contact in AILA.
3. Please contact you state chapter leader to discuss what can be done from IV stand point. I live in tri state and will contact. Murali or Chandrakanth
1. Any one with good english language skill : Can you please volunteer to draft a letter stating the issue....
2. Please contact your lawyers to see if they have contact in AILA.
3. Please contact you state chapter leader to discuss what can be done from IV stand point. I live in tri state and will contact. Murali or Chandrakanth
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eastwest
04-21 03:50 PM
Here is what you do,
1. Do not talk to them on phone
2. Send them a letter stating keeping your salary is against law. If they think you owe them the money, send you a letter explaining why they think the money is owed and how much, state that filing of labor is a cost to the company and not to the employee as per DOL
3. Give them a time limit of 30 days.
4. Ask them to send all the correspondence to your home address.
5. Send them a letter with some kind signature rcpt.
Wait and see, If they have a real claim then they will respond to you otherwise they will send your money.
1. Do not talk to them on phone
2. Send them a letter stating keeping your salary is against law. If they think you owe them the money, send you a letter explaining why they think the money is owed and how much, state that filing of labor is a cost to the company and not to the employee as per DOL
3. Give them a time limit of 30 days.
4. Ask them to send all the correspondence to your home address.
5. Send them a letter with some kind signature rcpt.
Wait and see, If they have a real claim then they will respond to you otherwise they will send your money.
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vkrishn
08-20 04:14 PM
I contacted my Attorney (Its company attorney) and he told me that he will make an enquiry with USCIS. Apparently he has a list of all the pedning cases who are current this month and he is planning to send the list to USCIS.
Lets see what i get next week. Week 3 done. Week 4 starts!
Lets see what i get next week. Week 3 done. Week 4 starts!
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simple1
05-08 02:00 PM
CFR22 is not the law. INA is the law. I could not find it in INA, that is all we need.
Honestly, I dont care if they are eligible for FB2A.
All I care is eb-dependents are not eligible for EBquota.
why are you quoting and supporting the official mis interpretation above the actual law ?
Is it still not clear for you? eb-dependents are NOT eligible for F2A.
So we have to follow the regulation and the regulation (CFR22) mentioned specifically that eb-dependents are eligble for EB-category. Regulations and interpretations are there for a reason, and it has to be followed when law is not clear.
I agree that INA doesnt specifically says that, but at the same time INA specifically rules out eb-dependents from F2A also. To be eligible for F2A you should be dependent of a permanent resident "at the time of application".
You should probably stream line your effort to not count eb-dependents in any visa-numbers (since neither the regulation or law is clear on that part).
You are still under a mis-concept that every word and sentence has to be quoted in "INA", and can ignore all official regulations and interpretations.
Honestly, I dont care if they are eligible for FB2A.
All I care is eb-dependents are not eligible for EBquota.
why are you quoting and supporting the official mis interpretation above the actual law ?
Is it still not clear for you? eb-dependents are NOT eligible for F2A.
So we have to follow the regulation and the regulation (CFR22) mentioned specifically that eb-dependents are eligble for EB-category. Regulations and interpretations are there for a reason, and it has to be followed when law is not clear.
I agree that INA doesnt specifically says that, but at the same time INA specifically rules out eb-dependents from F2A also. To be eligible for F2A you should be dependent of a permanent resident "at the time of application".
You should probably stream line your effort to not count eb-dependents in any visa-numbers (since neither the regulation or law is clear on that part).
You are still under a mis-concept that every word and sentence has to be quoted in "INA", and can ignore all official regulations and interpretations.
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tonyHK12
02-15 09:18 AM
How about we ask our lawyers to contribute for this event?
Good idea, I was informed some have helped in the past.
Good idea, I was informed some have helped in the past.
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pcs
02-09 08:33 PM
I am sending $ 20 ...
Please keep sending emails to all members and encourage them to chip in regularly..
Please keep sending emails to all members and encourage them to chip in regularly..
GCStatus
09-13 09:18 PM
Whats the game plan here?. What will this letter do?. What if we dont get reply?.
We dont give them any room here. We are not letting them decide anything. We provide them options and they have to choose one. If they dont, we sue them.
Options according to me. Feel free to correct/add folks.
1.Process Green card in a consistent manner and provide Green cards who have been waiting for a while and make it current.
2. Refund every DAMN dollar for all the million applicants who didnt get it.
If they are not choosing either, we are SUING. No second thoughts here. We are under the water already.
We dont give them any room here. We are not letting them decide anything. We provide them options and they have to choose one. If they dont, we sue them.
Options according to me. Feel free to correct/add folks.
1.Process Green card in a consistent manner and provide Green cards who have been waiting for a while and make it current.
2. Refund every DAMN dollar for all the million applicants who didnt get it.
If they are not choosing either, we are SUING. No second thoughts here. We are under the water already.
sb15
08-25 10:33 AM
When i initially got RFE, i didn't know at that time that there were already few H1-B's denied from my company. I believe last year when CSC started processing H1-B's they issued RFE's to lot of companies. Most of them got through even though they had few issues but unfortunately my ex-employer got caught and they have denied majority of extensions and new petitions with the reasons i have mentioned before. Till that time, i didn't had much knowledge about the process. I thought i was safe coz my W-2's were almost double the amount that stated on the labor and i was employed, i have provided all the client details, PO and everything. Inspite of that, my extension was denied. Coming to your questions, i have moved out of the company after 6 months of my 485 filing. I haven't filed any H1-B, No AC21(just change of attorney) and i also have an another 140 pending with my new employer and i don't think that 140 is going to work coz there are lot of complexities. Talk to your employer about this. Are you the only person in this situation or anyone else with you in your company. Are there any other petitions that are recently being approved or denied? He is the right person who can tell you about your petition. If you think your employer is not that good by sticking with all the rules,you still have time to move to another company. Even if your petition gets denied, if you want to maintain H1-B status, you can still do that, but there is little bit of extra money involved to get back on to it.
There is nothing to be nervous about this coz there is very little that you can do about this. Majority of the companies got this RFE and lot of them got out of it. Looks like you have a good relation with your company ( 5 years is a good amount of time ). Please talk to them and make a decision based on what they have to say..Hope everything goes well .. never know u could be green before your extension decision is made..Good luck..
Thanks sankar_203.....I would like to talk to you more on this...do you mind giving contact number ?
Thanks for the response, I really appreciate it...
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There is nothing to be nervous about this coz there is very little that you can do about this. Majority of the companies got this RFE and lot of them got out of it. Looks like you have a good relation with your company ( 5 years is a good amount of time ). Please talk to them and make a decision based on what they have to say..Hope everything goes well .. never know u could be green before your extension decision is made..Good luck..
Thanks sankar_203.....I would like to talk to you more on this...do you mind giving contact number ?
Thanks for the response, I really appreciate it...
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